INTERVIEW: Leon Panetta, Joint Ocean Commission Initiative
A
former Member of the House of Representatives, Director of the Office of
Management and Budget and Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton, Leon
Panetta has recently turned his attention to one of his great passions: management
of the world’s vast oceans. Panetta now Co-Chairs the Joint Ocean Commission
Initiative (JOCI), a key partner of Citizens for Global Solutions in the push
to ratify the U.N. Convention on the Law of the Sea (LOS). Panetta recently
agreed to be interviewed for Global Solutions Quarterly.
The
Joint Ocean
Commission Initiative has been a driving force behind the effort to get the U.S. to ratify
the Law of the Sea. Could you explain to
our readers how the Joint Initiative was formed and what you do?
We
started out as two separate Commissions. I chaired the independent Pew Oceans
Commission, which released
its
report in 2003. One year later, the congressionally-mandated and
presidentially-appointed U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy, chaired by Admiral
James Watkins (Ret.), released its report. Both reports focused on changes in
policies necessary to improve national and global stewardship of oceans and
coasts. In the final analysis, there
was a lot of overlap in the recommendations of the two reports. Everyone agrees
that we need to incorporate into U.S. policy better ecosystem-based
management, ocean governance, fisheries management and increased
reliance on science in management decisions. Following the release of the two
reports, Admiral Watkins and I both realized that the successful implementation
of the report recommendations would require continued effort by the members of the
two Commissions, thus we established the Joint Ocean Commission Initiative, which
includes the full membership of both Commissions.
How
does the Law of the Sea convention fit into JOCI’s agenda?
Admiral
Watkins, the Commissioners and I all believe that oceans and coasts are
severely threatened, domestically and around the world. On a basic, intuitive level,
it simply makes sense. No one nation can
set the rules for use and navigation of the oceans. Additionally, we believe we
need the legal protections and economic opportunities that the Law of the Sea
would afford us. We need a set of fair standards that all countries agree to
meet, and the Law of the Sea convention is exactly that.
Do
you think joining the Law of the Sea would have an effect on the United States’ standing
in the world?
Absolutely.
There’s a perception internationally that Americans don’t like international institutions,
that Americans view treaties and international law as constraints on their
power. You and I know that most Americans don’t feel that way. Most Americans
want their government to work hand-in-hand with other governments to solve
global problems that can’t be solved by an individual country. And most people here
want us to be seen as a country that is admired and respected. For some of our partners
abroad, our failure to ratify this treaty, which offers us so many substantial benefits
at no cost, have begun to question whether we are as committed to international
law as we say we are. In addition to the national security, environmental and
economic benefits it would provide, ratifying the Law of the Sea would also
help us strengthen our global alliances.
Let’s
talk about some of those benefits. The supporter base for the Law of the Sea typifies
an “odd bedfellows” coalition. In your view, why are such diverse groups supporting
this treaty?
There’s
something for everybody in the Law of the Sea. President Bush and the military desperately
want to join so our navigational rights and national security interests can be protected,
while peace groups see it as a way to settle
disputes absent the threat of force. American oil and gas companies understand that
until we ratify, their foreign competitors will have a leg up on them; at the
same time, environmental groups see participation in Law of the Sea as the only
way to conserve a fragile marine environment and marine resources on the high seas.
It’s really amazing to consider how one treaty advances our interests in so many
ways. Plus, I think we all recognize
that it’s better not to sit on the sidelines when it comes to international
institutions. We are always better
served by being a constructive participant in international negotiations that
impact our national interests, rather than pretending the debate isn’t happening.
That’s what the treaty’s few opponents
seem to
want us to do.
This
treaty has been around for a long time. Do you think the Senate will vote to accede
to it?
I
do. I’ve seen this treaty get bottled up for years, but I think the time has
come. We’re living in an increasingly interconnected world. The Russian
activities in the Arctic, the challenge of
stopping the proliferation of
weapons of mass destruction and the threats to migratory fish stocks have substantially
raised the profile of the Law of the Sea. This treaty now has broad bipartisan support,
including that of President Bush. This is not about Republican or Democrat,
left or right. It is fundamentally about the sustainability of our world and the
security and economic interests of our country. 155 countries around the world understand
the importance of the treaty. Ratification
is a practical step that the U.S.
is soon going to take, at long last.